Tim Dillon Just Went Mask-Off White Nationalist with Joe Rogan Again
"They don't care if there's large swaths of Michigan under Sharia law. They wouldn't care."
Tim Dillon just graced the Joe Rogan Experience with some extremely racist commentary, arguing explicitly that Democrats imported immigrants to vote for them—in other words, the white nationalist Great Replacement theory—and even calling Minnesota state senator Omar Fateh a “Somali” who looks like one of the pirates in Captain Phillips. (Fateh is Somali-American and was born in Washington, DC.) We’ll get to all that in a second, because I want to look at his comments on the Riyadh Comedy Festival first.
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After telling Rogan that he’s making $375,000 for his appearance—as he said on his own podcast last week, adding on Legion of Skanks a few days later that he asked for $500,000—Dillon complains that the same people criticizing him for appearing on the festival are themselves pro-immigration. Specifically, he says, they are for the immigration of radicalized Muslims who won’t “assimilate as easily as people from European nations.” See for yourself:
Rogan: Are you really going to go there?
Dillon: Of course I am.
Rogan: Wow.
Dillon: Why would I not? They kill gay people and women? By the way, we said that about, we say this about every Muslim, every Muslim country is throwing gay people off the roof all the time, by the way.
Rogan: Right.
Dillon: Okay? I obviously don't agree with Saudi Arabian policies on women and things like that.
Rogan: Yeah.
Dillon: Is it my business to tell Saudi Arabia how to live? Truly?
Rogan: How big was the check?
Dillon: $375,000 for one show.
Rogan: Nice.
Dillon: That's not bad.
Rogan: That's pretty good.
Dillon: That's not bad.
Rogan: I'll take that.
Dillon: I'll watch a behanding for that.
Rogan: Behanding?
Dillon: Yeah, it's called a behanding. What happens is they cut the hand off the thief.
Rogan: Don't steal.
Dillon: Here's the thing, all the people that have yelled at me for this are also pro-letting migrants and refugees into America at very high numbers. Now the same religion, that is supposedly so terrifying that I cannot spend 24 hours in that country, is the same religion that all of these migrants and refugees are pretty supportive of that are coming over.
Rogan: Yeah.
Dillon: So it feels weird to me that people are getting on a moral high horse and going, it is so dangerous to go to Saudi Arabia for 48 hours. Why? Well because they do X, Y, and Z. Why do they do that? Well this religion, it's crazy. I go, okay, but then who's coming into our country? How differently do they feel about all of these things? And then if you poll them they don't feel that differently.
Rogan: No. There's no room for dissent in that religion.
Dillon: Right. So people that are somewhat radicalized in that religion that are coming into America are supposed to be greeted with open arms and it's not compassionate and it's terrible if you suggest that we shouldn't take all of those people because they may not assimilate as easily as people from European nations. You're called a racist, a Nazi, whatever. But if you want to go to one of those countries that is luxurious, nice, then you're attacked because your morality, I have to in order to perform in Saudi Arabia, I'm supposed to agree with everything they do. That's crazy.
Rogan: Yeah, no, there's no logic in a lot of the thinking. I mean it's silly. But what they're doing with allowing mass migration in the UK, you see it in England and Ireland, and it's really weird. Because where does this end up? Because it seems like it ends up with some places that have Sharia law.
Dillon: Yes.
Rogan: Especially when you consider how many babies they're having versus how many babies the English people—I mean, they're openly talking about it. "We're going to outbreed you."
Note the rhetorical feint he pulls here, claiming that critics are slamming him for going somewhere unsafe. That’s not what his critics, and the critics of everyone on the Riyadh Comedy Festival lineup, are arguing. What we’re arguing is that it's morally reprehensible to take money from the Saudi regime for the purpose of whitewashing its abuses, and that this is not in fact comparable to making money from individual customers who pay for your tickets here in the United States.
Then there’s the explicit racism from both him and Rogan. Islamophobia has unfortunately been acceptable in American discourse for as long as I’ve been alive, but until a few years ago there was at least some understanding that replacement theory—the argument that immigrants are going to replace white people—was an explicitly white nationalist ideology. Alas, thanks in part to comics like Tim Dillon normalizing white nationalism on shows like the Joe Rogan Experience, that norm is a thing of the past.
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As you know, this is hardly the first time Dillon has endorsed the theory on Rogan’s podcast (or his own), but his comments today are particularly vile. Here is he is on Fateh, the Democratic Socialist Minnesota official who in July won the state Democratic party’s endorsement for mayor, only to have his endorsement rescinded a month later.
Dillon: They almost elected a Somali mayor there, or governor or something. But they just pulled his support away.
Rogan: Yeah. What happened with that? Why did they pull his support away?
Dillon: Well, they said that there was something wrong with the convention, that people's votes weren't counted. But it seems like the Democrats realized, “Oh, we're going to import all these people that we think they're going to vote for us. They're actually going to vote for themselves and get rid of us.” So it's like, “Oh, we'll import all these people. They'll vote for us.” And then they're like, “Wait a minute, fuck you. We'll just run one of our people. Why do we need to elect you? We can just elect this guy,” and it's like the guy from Captain Phillips.
Rogan: Yeah.
Dillon: It's the guy.
Rogan: Yeah. "I'm the captain now."
Dillon: It's the pirate guy. Yeah.
Rogan: Yeah.
Dillon: And I'm sure he's lovely. And I'm not saying he shouldn't run in America. I'm not saying a pirate shouldn't be the mayor of a great American city.
Rogan: That fucking state is not recovered from Prince dying.
Dillon: No, no.
Rogan: They fell off.
I’m almost loathe to clarify that Fateh is an American citizen born in Washington, DC, because even if he wasn’t this would still be incredibly fucking racist. “We’re going to import all these people that we think they’re going to vote for us”—he’s literally talking about an elected official whose proposals largely align with what Dillon pretends are his own preferred policies: taxing the rich, building affordable housing, supporting unions, and expanding the social safety net. But because he’s Black and Muslim, Dillon sees Fateh instead as a conniving outsider trying to steal those things away from the deserving, e.g. white people. I mean, he could not be more brazen about it. They're actually going to vote for themselves and get rid of us.
Dillon takes his own spin on the Great Replacement theory even further elsewhere in the podcast, when he proposes that ultrarich elites are trying to replace (white) Americans with immigrants so they can later replace immigrants with robots:
Dillon: They run California on $8 trillion worth of tech money in Northern California. They run New York on a lot of fucking finance money. And these people bring in a class of people that cannot understand them. So culturally, it's nice when the maid can't understand you. It's nice. It's nice when she really doesn't know what you're saying. And I'm not saying that you, obviously, get rid of every immigrant, but this whole idea that the American working class, if they're not participating in their own destruction, they're somehow a racist or they're xenophobic is psychotic.
Rogan: It is psychotic.
Dillon: It's psychotic
Rogan: It's weird.
Dillon: Yeah.
Rogan: It's just weird that people accept it. And it's also weird that it's attached to being a kind, compassionate person who's on the left.
Dillon: That's right. Yeah.
Rogan: And also just complete lack of any... Anybody who gets arrested has no cash bail.
Dillon: Yeah.
Rogan: Right? So there's no punishment for committing crimes. It's very strange. It is all set... If you want to be the person that's going to try to completely destabilize a country, you would do it exactly that way. I'm not saying that that's why they're doing it, but it just feels very strange that they've gotten everybody to kind of go along with all this.
Dillon: Well, it seems to be preparing to run a country without people. It seems very much, if I'm a nut, a conspiracy nut, which I am, and I'm wondering how you begin to sever ties with people. First, you're going to replace the people in your own country with people from another country that you could pay a lot less money to, who you have no cultural ties with, who you don't even speak the same language. And then eventually you're going to discard those people for robots.
Rogan: Interesting.
Dillon: And machines.
Rogan: Well, I think you want to set up more internal conflict.
Dillon: Yes.
Rogan: If people figure out that this white versus Black struggle in America is kind of bullshit, and then the racism that people think exists is kind of accentuated by social media, and then they figure out that racism that exists is accentuated by bots, so that they're pitting us against each other. When most people are cool.
Dillon: Yeah.
Rogan: The vast majority. And then also there's the gay-straight thing, and there's this weird push recently to try to repeal gay marriage. It's like, who's pushing that? Well, that seems like one of those fake things that they do to keep each other at each other's throats. Well, what's the ultimate one? The ultimate one is Sharia law.
Dillon: Right.
Rogan: The ultimate one is bring in as many Muslims as you can. Let them gather up steam.
Dillon: Yes.
Rogan: Let them build up an alliance. Let a bunch of really fucking stupid, wacky leftists go along with this.
Dillon: And then you pray—
Rogan: Not knowing that that religion is counter to everything you stand for.
Dillon: You believe in, yeah.
Rogan: Everything you stand for as far as women's rights, gay rights, religious freedom.
Dillon: I think you're right. I think you're right. I think you're 100% right. And I think the funny thing about a lot of the big, super wealthy people is they don't care if there's large swaths of Michigan under Sharia law. They wouldn't care.
Rogan: No.
Dillon: They're really interested in 12 zip codes that they're going to gate off.
Again: insanely racist.
We’ll close out for today with Dillon’s reiteration that he is anti-immigration, period:
Dillon: I was talking to my aunt about immigration, who I like, and she was basically going... I said, "I think you also have to pause legal immigration for a minute." And she goes, "Well, then who's going to be your doctor?" Because she has an Indian doctor.
Rogan: Oh boy.
Dillon: And I said, "Well, wait a minute."
Rogan: That's hilarious.
Dillon: I said, "Hold on."
Rogan: That's hilarious.
Dillon: That's what she said. She goes, "Well, who's going to be your doctor?" She's a boomer aunt sitting at my house in Southampton going, "Well, who's going to be your doctor?" And I go, "Why are we not training American children to be doctors in America?"
Rogan: What'd she say to that?
Dillon: She goes, "Well, no one does their homework. I was a teacher for 30 years, and I know that no one does their homework." And I go, "Do you think it's possible that nobody does their homework because we need two incomes to run a house, and kids are left to play video games by themselves and they're not being parented?"
So I think this idea of we're importing doctors, you know what I mean? Because this whole idea is like, "Oh, these are jobs Americans won't do." And then they're like, "Well, it's agriculture and stuff." And it's like, "Okay, can understand some of that." But then you're like, "Wait a minute. Are you saying Americans don't want to be doctors?" That's crazy. They don't want to work in hotels or restaurants. Then you start going, "Well, what jobs can Americans do?"
I mean, Marc Andreessen came out, and I don't know if you have the quote Jamie, but Marc Andreessen literally was talking about, and I don't have a problem with Marc Andreessen per se, I think this statement was silly. He said, "Oh yeah, after AI takes over, one of the only jobs that's going to be okay," I swear to God he said this, "Is venture capital." He goes, "That'll be okay, because we'll still need to make judgments about what's a worthy investment strategy."
Rogan: How convenient that his job will be saved.
Dillon: Well, yeah. Well, this is the whole thing. Right, yeah. Right there. Marc Andreessen says, "One job is mostly safe from AI, venture capital." It's just funny to me that-
Rogan: That's hilarious.
Dillon: That this is the direction. If immigrants were taking the jobs of Hollywood screenwriters, they would not be celebrating it. If immigrants were taking the job of people at white shoe law firms, they would not be celebrating it. If they were taking the job of investment bankers, they would not be celebrating it. It's very obvious.
Rogan: Yeah.
Dillon: It's not anything wrong with the immigrants who come here, obviously, I would come here too to take someone's job because I'd want to survive.
Rogan: It's just a weird argument, like, "who's going to be your doctor?" That's a really weird argument, and it's kind of—
Dillon: Yeah.
Rogan: I mean, no disrespect to your aunt—
Dillon: No. Let's do it.
Rogan: Kind of racist.
And there you go—it’s racist against white people to be pro-immigration. Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon, everyone.
