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Andrew Schulz Is a Depraved Fascist, Part Whatever

"These people are here illegally. They're breaking the law being here, whereas simply being Jewish in Germany in the late 1930s shouldn't have been illegal."

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Here is Netflix’s Andrew Schulz, on his podcast Brilliant Idiots today, arguing that you shouldn’t compare ICE’s immigration raids to Nazi Germany, because whereas ICE’s targets are in the country illegally, it shouldn’t have been illegal to be Jewish in 1930s Germany:

Andrew Schulz: …Habeas corpus is, it's basically the right to hold somebody without charging them, which unfortunately throughout American history, we have done. FDR did it with the internment camps during World War II. Lincoln did it during the Civil War. It is fundamental. Upholding habeas corpus is fundamental to the American identity. We cannot hold you without charging with you. Once we do that, it's a tyrannical dictatorship. So I a 100% agree with that. To say that [Trump] is doing something that is novel or threatening potentially to do something that is novel or different than past presidents that we look at as heroes, as American icons, I would say is unfair.

Chris Morrow: Well, the internment camps are definitely a stain.

Schulz: Pardon?

Morrow: The internment camps. Not at the time—they were accepted. We look back now and realize that that was outrageous. And it was a money grab. All this shit is a fucking money grab.

Schulz: What—the internment camps were a money grab?

Morrow: Yeah, man. The Japanese controlled the most fertile parts of California. All the places where we grow most of our crops now, those were owned by Japanese farmers.

Charlamagne Tha God: I thought the most fertile parts of California were Mexican women.

Schulz: So, yeah. I don't know if it was only a money grab. I think that there was legitimate concerns about—legitimate is a tough thing. I don't think they did it the right way, but I think there were concerns about Japanese espionage. Just like there's concerns about—

Morrow: And there was Japanese espionage. I mean, but that's all this stuff, right? I mean, look, I looked—did you guys watch the video of the mother being arrested this weekend in Massachusetts and her daughters are trying to stop the ICE agents?

Charlamagne: Which one? I've seen so many different videos.

Morrow: Look, I know immigration is a problem. I'm not for a second saying we don't have to address that. But when you see stuff like that—

Schulz: Yeah, it's heartbreaking. We're emotional people.

Morrow: I'm like, you say—who were the Nazi guards? Who were the fucking slave catchers tracking down slaves?

Schulz: Yeah. I wouldn't compare it to that at all.

Morrow: Man, you're ripping—

Charlamagne: It's gotta start somewhere.

Schulz: I would—

Morrow: You're ripping mothers away from their kids.

Schulz: I think you do a disservice to what Jews experienced during Nazi Germany, and I think you do—

Morrow: And I'm saying that as a Jew.

Schulz: You're like half. And then I think—

Morrow: Half of me says it, then.

Schulz: I think that you're doing a disservice to what slaves experienced.

Morrow: But what Char says, it didn't—yes, the first day in 1938 or whatever, it looked like this. And then not enough people said stuff and it escalated and escalated and escalated, and then you got where you're going.

Charlamagne: I saw a mom who took her two sons who had been going through the process of getting their papers and they were going to the regular, I guess check-ins or whatever that they have to do.

Morrow: Yeah.

Charlamagne: Snatched the two sons up.

Morrow: Yeah.

Schulz: Listen—

Morrow: We gotta do something, but we have the money to do it a different way, is what I'm saying.

Schulz: Yes, it is heartbreaking. There's no question it is heartbreaking. You could make the argument—or they would make the argument—that these people are here illegally. They're breaking the law being here, whereas simply being Jewish in Germany in the late 1930s shouldn't have been illegal. These were German citizens that were being snatched up. And the same thing with slaves. You could make the argument—I guess slavery was illegal at the time.

Morrow: It was illegal to leave a plantation if you were a slave.

Schulz: Yeah, it was illegal, but it was also slavery itself is this immoral, deplorable institution that, what is that Martin Luther King quote? I don't even know if it's a Martin Luther King quote.